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magic
8th October 2012, 20:10
I was discouraged from thinking along the lines of a stairlift by health professionals a it would not see Peter all the way through his condition. Recently I realised that, as the adaptations will not start until after Christmas, Peter could benefit from a stairlift now. I telephoned the first firm in the phone book and they sent a rep around. He quoted a figure of 5850 I was surprised it was so high and mentions that I might ask the MNDA for help. The price was immediately reduced to 5000 on the grounds that the MNDA would ask for a discount!
AmI alone on planet magic? I had explained to the rep that we were getting no help with adaptations and that money was tight. He still quoted me an inflated figure and only reduced it when I mentioned MNDA. I was telephoned a few days later and gave the sales manage short shrift, insisting that he did not call again. He did call and got Peter and was promoting reconditioned lifts ( the visiting rep had run the whole idea of these). Peter used a lot of his depleted energy talking to this cretin. Is ther no ethical code for this parasites?

Magic

pete
8th October 2012, 20:51
Hi magic,


Would have thought by now anything to do with disability sends the cash register into melt down,
I have seen adverts for hiring stair lifts long and short term hire periods, my father in law bought his paid about a grand, it was a straight stair job they do loads, and no they have no ethics whatsoever, it's a Money maker all round .

Best wishes

Pete

HKSardo
9th October 2012, 00:55
How about the option of hiring one? Ours cost 500 a year to rent - a simple straight stair.

Daiel

magic
9th October 2012, 05:55
Our stairs have 2 turns. We have chosen a reconditioned one from another firm. Maintenance contract very good.
Magic

concernedrelative
15th October 2012, 18:44
My mum had a fall recently, and after returning home from hospital the OT and myself realised my mum needed a stairlift. I decided to do some research and found there seamed to be 3 main companies, Stannah,Acorn and Age uk stairlifts, we decided to have Age uk as we liked the thought of dealing with a charity rather than a large business, and we had heard stories of pressure sales from the other companies.
We made an appointment, thier surveyor came round, who did not pressure us and informed us that the lift would be a straight stairlift called a minivator 950. This would cost 1900 and he told us this was the same price to any Age uk customer, which we liked so we purchased. The lift was fit a week later and everything was fine.
Some weeks later a neighbour of ours had a stairlift installed, I called in to have a look and found it to be the same stairlift as ours. She had purchased it from a company called Companion for 1400 brand new.
I decided to research this company and found that Companion and Age uk are run from the same building in Leeds, they are owned by a larger company called Handicare who supply them with minivator stairlifts.
So if we had called Companion we could have had the same stairlift with the same warranty fit by the same engineers for 500 less, what a con, Age uk are supposed to be helping the elderly! how does this help my mum by taking 500 more for the same product, totally disgusting, wish I had gone to Stannah.

Gina83
19th November 2012, 15:59
My mum had a fall recently, and after returning home from hospital the OT and myself realised my mum needed a stairlift. I decided to do some research and found there seamed to be 3 main companies, Stannah,Acorn and Age uk stairlifts, we decided to have Age uk as we liked the thought of dealing with a charity rather than a large business, and we had heard stories of pressure sales from the other companies.
We made an appointment, thier surveyor came round, who did not pressure us and informed us that the lift would be a straight stairlift called a minivator 950. This would cost 1900 and he told us this was the same price to any Age uk customer, which we liked so we purchased. The lift was fit a week later and everything was fine.
Some weeks later a neighbour of ours had a stairlift installed, I called in to have a look and found it to be the same stairlift as ours. She had purchased it from a company called Companion for 1400 brand new.
I decided to research this company and found that Companion and Age uk are run from the same building in Leeds, they are owned by a larger company called Handicare who supply them with minivator stairlifts.
So if we had called Companion we could have had the same stairlift with the same warranty fit by the same engineers for 500 less, what a con, Age uk are supposed to be helping the elderly! how does this help my mum by taking 500 more for the same product, totally disgusting, wish I had gone to Stannah.

My Grandma had a few problems with her stairlift in the residential home that she is staying in, but she was quite lucky with hers as Sheridan Lifts came to repair any problems that there was with it on the same day and were very helpful on the phone to her. I stayed and waited for the lift engineers to make sure they didn't take advantage! I would maybe try them or just see how much their lift services costs are. They work with a lot of care homes, so here is their website in case you wanted some contact information - sheridanlifts.com. :D I would definitely do some research first and I can understand your frustration! Sometimes the more established companies like AGE UK aren't always the best!

Moderator note: This company deal with lift maintenance, but the standard type, not stairlifts.

MrsBaxster
18th November 2013, 13:34
My mum had a fall recently, and after returning home from hospital the OT and myself realised my mum needed a stairlift. I decided to do some research and found there seamed to be 3 main companies, Stannah,Acorn and Age uk stairlifts, we decided to have Age uk as we liked the thought of dealing with a charity rather than a large business, and we had heard stories of pressure sales from the other companies.
We made an appointment, thier surveyor came round, who did not pressure us and informed us that the lift would be a straight stairlift called a minivator 950. This would cost 1900 and he told us this was the same price to any Age uk customer, which we liked so we purchased. The lift was fit a week later and everything was fine.
Some weeks later a neighbour of ours had a stairlift installed, I called in to have a look and found it to be the same stairlift as ours. She had purchased it from a company called Companion for 1400 brand new.
I decided to research this company and found that Companion and Age uk are run from the same building in Leeds, they are owned by a larger company called Handicare who supply them with minivator stairlifts.
So if we had called Companion we could have had the same stairlift with the same warranty fit by the same engineers for 500 less, what a con, Age uk are supposed to be helping the elderly! how does this help my mum by taking 500 more for the same product, totally disgusting, wish I had gone to Stannah.


My first post and just thought I would share my stairlift experience which was similar to the post above. I too phoned a number of stairlift companies including the actual manufactures and was shocked by the prices quoted. I eventually ended up finding a local company in Leeds called Unicorn Stairlifts who supplied a rental curved stairlift. There prices are in black & white with no surprises, in fact the price we paid was as per there website.

We had quotes for thousands of pounds from other suppliers and in the end we paid a small fraction by renting a curved stairlift from Unciron Stairlifts which was ideal because the stairlift is only needed temporary. I'll admit it was hard finding a company that rent curved stairlifts but eventually we did. Highly recommended, link to there website: http://www.unicornstairlifts.co.uk/coverage/leeds/

Jangobie
18th November 2013, 13:54
When OT first came in they told my husband that they would not provide him with a stairlift as "they will not get value for money". I was absolutely furious with her words. We have had a stairlift fitted this July through a company called AST - I rang MND Connect and they recommended this company. I also spoke to our MND Visitor who knew someone who had used this company and they were very please.

When they came they explained very clearly the price and because we had a turn at the top of the stairs. We had decided to fund this ourselves even though MND said they could probably help if we got a form signed from the OT. After her first visit I did not want to speak to her again about the stairlift. AST recommended a reconditioned one which cost 2,600 - he said people rarely bought new ones as they were very expensive and once they were reconditioned they were as new. There is a great backup from these people and we have been very pleased. There was no calling after they had given us the price to chase us which was much appreciated. I think these people are mainly based in the South but I would highly recommend them.

Hope everyone is having a good day. Diane

roy
18th November 2013, 18:14
Hi all,

Stairlift rip off farce, I needed one last year was fitted a straight 3.6 metre for 2500 because
My legs have totally gone I can no longer use it.
I made contact with home care 12 weeks ago who offered 150 quid for if. Insulted by the
offer I decided to offer it free to MNDA they in turn found a candidate 7 weeks ago.
I still have it in my home evidently it has taken all this time for approval I'm absolutely
disgusted with the time it has taken to sort the person in Oxfordshire and the rip off price
for installation and subsequent offer.

Roy the rant!

pete
18th November 2013, 20:22
Evening Roy ,

Said it before and nothing's changed my mind, Everything to do with Disability is a Rip off !!!, as for stair lifts ,well the father in law was Welsh ,and not known for his chucking money around ,but he certainly spent a fortune on himself as age caught up with him , despite being advised at eighty odd to hire rather than buy ,,,!!! He bought as always not cheap nearly A grand for a straight lift . Twelve months later he moved into sheltered housing and yes you guessed it the company offered to help him out no charge for removing it and they gave him the sum of fifty pounds as a good will gesture , now that's what I call a rip off ,I pay forty pounds a month it was fitted in three hours the day after we ordered it no fuss no mess and no charge once it's redundant to remove it ,and 24 hr call out service . My point is there are good companies out there but a lot more con merchants ,who see us mugs as easy targets in just about everything we will need at some point , Enjoy the evening folks

Panda
8th January 2014, 16:40
Hello all -
I have had a straight run reconditioned minivator stair lift fitted for my stepmother for 450 with new batteries, a 12 month warranty and wireless remotes top and bottom of the stair to call the lift.
This was above the price of a standard lift (350) as it was a little further than his usual area, the stairs are concrete and I wanted the better spec with remotes.
I still think its a good price and he was pleasant to deal with.
He has left me his contact details so that I can not only call him in the event of a fault, but he asked me to call if she wants to move out and the new buyer does not want the lift.
He said he would remove the lift and buy it back (he only fits certain models that he trusts and buys these second hand from the big boys for the pittance mentioned in former posts).
If you are lucky to live in the North West and want his details - PM me and I will pass on ;)

Lazarus
19th March 2014, 00:13
Hi Panda Im new on here in fact this is my first post I did try to send you a pm as you requested below but poss because im new it refused to let me I have a problem with an acorn stair lift and could do with the contact info you mention below if you can pm me please do regards
Lazarus

Hello all -
I have had a straight run reconditioned minivator stair lift fitted for my stepmother for 450 with new batteries, a 12 month warranty and wireless remotes top and bottom of the stair to call the lift.
This was above the price of a standard lift (350) as it was a little further than his usual area, the stairs are concrete and I wanted the better spec with remotes.
I still think its a good price and he was pleasant to deal with.
He has left me his contact details so that I can not only call him in the event of a fault, but he asked me to call if she wants to move out and the new buyer does not want the lift.
He said he would remove the lift and buy it back (he only fits certain models that he trusts and buys these second hand from the big boys for the pittance mentioned in former posts).
If you are lucky to live in the North West and want his details - PM me and I will pass on ;)

Panda
19th March 2014, 00:49
Hi - I think you need to post about 5 times before you can PM as I have tried to reply.
The lad who sorted us out is called Pete 07902278777. Good luck P.

Lazarus
23rd March 2014, 01:11
Thanks for the fast reply just what we needed

Helen
12th April 2014, 12:48
My mum is selling my Dads stair lift - a Brooke's Curve 180. he only used it for 3 months and cost almost 4000 but it has a turn, and swivel seat, etc. We are in Devon, but my husband works in Somerset. I think Mum is open to offers for it. But I guess you would have to add the cost of someone fitting it on top of that when considering the outlay. :0/ it's so difficult to know what to do with stair lifts and we didn't know how little use Dad would get from it. But it made a huge difference for him in terms of independence and being able to sleep upstairs. It is such a shame that there is such a difference in cost and prices - just makes it all the more hard work at a time when you could just do without it.

Helen
15th April 2014, 17:36
It seems mad that there isn't a company that buys back and then sells a d fits second hand stair lifts ?!! We are going to remove Dads and store it, in the hope that someone would like to buy it for a few hundred, rather than spending a few thousand! Please message if you know of anyone who would like it! :0)

rusalex
18th April 2014, 12:16
totally right. i wonder myself.

Asaf
9th May 2014, 12:22
My mum is selling my Dads stair lift - a Brooke's Curve 180. he only used it for 3 months and cost almost 4000 but it has a turn, and swivel seat, etc. We are in Devon, but my husband works in Somerset. I think Mum is open to offers for it. But I guess you would have to add the cost of someone fitting it on top of that when considering the outlay. :0/ it's so difficult to know what to do with stair lifts and we didn't know how little use Dad would get from it. But it made a huge difference for him in terms of independence and being able to sleep upstairs. It is such a shame that there is such a difference in cost and prices - just makes it all the more hard work at a time when you could just do without it.

Hi Helen,

We may be interested in the curved system for my mother, we were totally shocked at the price we have been quoted for a curved system with all, please let us know if you still have it, sorry I could not pm you.

Rude456
22nd September 2014, 12:30
Hi there! If you're interested in finding the best stair-lift on the market, I'd recommend checking that link: www. archiexpo.com/tab/stair-lift.html. It really help me chose the ideal solution for my place.
:cool:

pete
22nd September 2014, 14:50
Hi rude,
Well as you seem very impressed with the company and never bothered with even a hello ? I guess you live up to your name and doubt you have mnd or a carer ,would love to be proved wrong, but I doubt that I am. Go on prove you have even the remotest interest in mnd other than selling to us.

MikeFD
22nd September 2014, 15:43
Yes Pete, you're probably right terms of online marketeering - (or meerkat-eering??;)), but, since the page detailed carries info for a broad range of companies (it seems to be an architectural sourcing directory), it might be worthy of a look just to see the range of possibilities out there for a broad range of situations - eg. I wasn't aware there are several 'standing' stairlifts available.

I think it's an interesting read, although some of the examples shown might be better suited to Rude456's location. He's posting from Mauritius - perhaps one of the billionaire breed? Banned him anyway for transgressing the Forum regs.

All the best,

Mike.

PS. Oops, my bad . . . meant Madagascar, so I take back the billionaire bit. Billio-lemurs? . . . nah.

pete
22nd September 2014, 20:13
Hi Mike,

Yes pretty much tell from what they don't say, It wouldn't be so obvious if they didn't use naff names and one or two have been interesting and then we have the cooking area specialists ,it all goes to make the day a bit more interesting ,anyway good to hear from you , No i agree lemurs don't have the brains to become TV icons like some have.

pete

debater23
22nd September 2014, 22:19
Im sorry to hear what a nightmare that is. I will say that there are a lot of sincere stairlift companies that are not intending to rip you off.
We were able to go to one site and within minutes get a few competitive quotes.
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they have everything you need.

Good luck

john
22nd September 2014, 22:56
Like bloody buses Pete. You wait all day for one and then two turn up together. Did toy with reporting Rude but decided on balance that his post was informative. The site he promotes is in Marseilles so goodness knows how that links with Madagascar. The spammer above is in New York and promoting a load of USA based installers. Good luck with that!

John

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