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    Haha and no no, not religion (god forbid lol) Nettie, just spirituality. Two different things in my book.
    Uh-oh here we go…I’m game too! lol

    Can we behave ? And be respectful…I certainly think so.

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    I like to hear other peoples opinions on religion and the afterlife. I myself believe there is something so great and powerful that the human mind could not grasp and understand because we have got so many doubts, logical thinking process, and we get frightened of what we don't understand. I also think their is an afterlife although not shore how that afterlife works. But I also believe we are not meant to understand until the time is right, if we new for certain there was a life after this one everyone would be topping themselves wouldn't they when things went wrong, thinking oh to heck with this I'll go and live in the next place...........mmmm well just sayin xx
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    hi,
    even before mnd i was an atheist, i cant believe that some all seeing god would create a universe with people inhabiting a planet and then allow said people to cause so much death and destruction and not intervene. on top of that `godīthen introduces illness and disease but not just to people to animals and plants etc. then which god do you believe in and if you've picked a `godī why that one, what makes that `godīmore believable/worthy than the next?
    cc i once heard of an experiment that was done in a operating theatre to try and prove/disprove out of body experiences, i dont know how true this is. in the theatre they placed items on high surfaces, like pictures, money and other items. then if they lost someone and obviously brought them back, a few days later they would question the patient to see if the remember seeing any thing? dont know the results but my guess would be that 0 patients saw anything.
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    You know what they say, never discuss religion and politics, so thanks for sharing that Zip, Mik.

    Like you Zip I find spirituality and the afterlife a fascinating subject. So many different views and opinions on it. I’m familiar with the Catholics and a lot of similar religions belief on the afterlife, but find views like Mik's so interesting, and with so many valid points. That's an interesting experiment, and yet there are sooo many books written by those that had that near death out of body experience.

    I do believe there is only one God Mik, and as people we just call him different things based on our religion or culture.

    Are ghosts stories just fairy tales, or spiritual beings amongst us? And if they are amongst us then clearly there is something else we evolve to after death. Oprah has a belief that we are all spiritual beings here just having a human experience, and when the journey and purpose here is over we go home. A lovely thought.

    I believe we are heading to a paradise beyond or human comprehension, and feel strongly our loved ones gone before us are waiting, and will greet us upon arrival. It’s the logistics of it all that confuses me? Where is this place physically? Do we stay there for eternity? What do we do there? Is there a concept of time there?

    And then there’s always this one…if we don’t get it right here do we have to come back again and do it all over! Ugh. lol

    There’s that other old saying that makes me ponder too, ’did god make man, or did man make god?’

    Dam it fascinates me, and makes me wonder….

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    I am in the don't know camp. I would like to believe in eternal life but if it does exist why do we think heaven and not hell is our destiny? Most of us do wrong in our lives, is death bed repentance enough to wipe the slate clean and buy us the dream ticket? If heaven does exist and we are all to be reunited with our loved ones who do we share eternity with? We have changing loves in our lives and occasionally changing partners, do we all co exist in harmony, past and present lovers together?
    The thing which leads me to believe in a creator is the wonder of what exists on this planet. The diversity of life forms is truly incredible and if evolution explains all then how have creatures as diverse as a mouse and an elephant evolved from the same basic amoeba to become the creatures they are.
    Is God dead. Is this why the world is full of all the problems that Mik lists?
    I do subscribe to the principles of Christianity and if these could be adopted and practised by all I think the world would be a more peaceful place.
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    I have been a church goer on and off throughout my life, but still struggle to believe. I tend to have a questioning mind and would like some proof about an after life, but there is none, you just have to have faith we are told. To me people who pray have a get out clause, they pray for someone to get better, if they do they say our prayers were answered, if they don't they say it was God's will, they win what ever happens. I know so many good people who suffer for years with terrible diseases and others who are not so good who live lives with very few problems.

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    I have a deep, abiding, unshakeable faith and it is that which has got me through all the bad times in my life, losing loved ones. I am very philosophical by nature which is why, I think, I don't rail against this awful disease and shout out "Why me!" I just think it is Gods will and he has sent it for a purpose. Perhaps this is why I can cope it with it better than others, I don't know. Joycie

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    We live next door to a vicar and his wife has said even she questions her faith sometime. I know many of the people who go to our church do not have a strong faith, they just enjoy going and the companionship and support they get from other people. I do pray, but have not got this blind faith which some people have, I wish I had.

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    I never have questioned my faith although for years, while we travelled all over the world, I didn't attend services. But it is horses for courses, isn't it? I wouldn't push it on anyone - everyone has their own way of dealing with life and what it throws at you. But when my Mum died, I stayed at her bedside for days and nights and as she died, I had a really profound spiritual experience. The memory of that is always with me. When Bill died, my close friend also lost his wife within days. He had no faith and wasn't dealing with any of it at all well I can remember him saying to me that he wished he had a faith. love Joycie xx

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    How about this......Do you think possibly when we die we are all united in a massive energy that is God at the heart of it. And CC you bought up a valid point, so do you think possibly if we are not able (for various reasons) to join this energy that we come back down to earth to live a different life again? This thinking would encompass so many beliefs. Fascinating.
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