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    Hi

    My dad was only diagnosed last week but keen to get going with banking his voice therefore can't wait for grants and things to go through I would like to pay for it myself. I know predictable and model talker are interlinked but not sure whether to go through the predictable app or the model talker website to start this process. What would you advise? Due to the cost I don't want to do things incorrectly

    I just don't know where to start but don't want to wait for speech and language therapist as his voice is already going!

    Thanks
    Whitney

    #2
    Get onto ModelTalker asap. He records his voice through them. Predictable is the app that comes later.

    Charles

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      #3
      Hi Whitney and welcome here.

      If your dad records his voice with modeltalker he will have to pay for the recording but the app and the iPad should be provided free through nhs augmented and alternative communication (AAC). You may have to go via a speech therapist.

      Best wishes,
      Barry
      I’m going to do this even if it kills me!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Barry52 View Post
        If your dad records his voice with modeltalker
        Modeltalker also seems quite technical - and I'm a tecchie!

        They complain about me using a USB headset giving poor audio quality and presumably want a headset with an audio plug. I'd ordinarily pop around to Maplins ......
        Warmly


        Andy

        ​Diagnosed 03/2015. One sided limb onset (arm) sporadic ALS/MND. MND hitting - now 50% left arm and 90% right arm, plus other bits including left shoulder

        "Things turn out the best for people who make the best of the way things turn out"

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          #5
          Originally posted by nunhead_man View Post
          Modeltalker also seems quite technical - and I'm a tecchie!

          They complain about me using a USB headset giving poor audio quality and presumably want a headset with an audio plug. I'd ordinarily pop around to Maplins ......
          Hi Nunhead Man,

          I’m a self taught tecchie as I was in my late 40’s when my employer gave me a laptop and minimal training. Like you I used a cheap usb headset but found I had to do it over time with several repeats. The importance is to find a room with no sound interruptions.

          Barry
          I’m going to do this even if it kills me!

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            #6
            I've now had a reassuring email from Modeltalker - they are responsive - telling me "You should not worry too much about the score on the pronunciation meter. A low score is _suggestive_ of a problem, but not definitive and things like your dialect do affect the score."

            eee by gum so zats ok den

            Originally posted by Barry52 View Post
            The importance is to find a room with no sound interruptions
            Yeah - in my home office I've had to remove the cats ( 2 off ) and turn off Radio 4 - and the network switch is a bit noisy but I cannot turn that off as I'd loose my connection
            Warmly


            Andy

            ​Diagnosed 03/2015. One sided limb onset (arm) sporadic ALS/MND. MND hitting - now 50% left arm and 90% right arm, plus other bits including left shoulder

            "Things turn out the best for people who make the best of the way things turn out"

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              #7
              Barry
              I am just about to start word banking. My NHS Trust do not provide an iPad just the app. I think it must depends on where you live. I will also need to pay for the recording when it is complete.

              Ann

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                #8
                I finished my ModeTalker voice banking last week. Yesterday I did the 30 sentence audition on there website. I'm not happy with the result. It cannot say 'too' correctly for example. It says 'te'. It cannot say my granddaughter Katie's name correctly. It says 'Kady' and it only sounds an 's' on the beginning of words unless I get it to do the señtence faster. It has a sound of my voice on some words but a lot not. The sound of some ending words that need stressing and it doesn't. Some of it's language sounds American. When I was doing the voice banking it frequently rejected my Liverpool accent. What can I do? Thanks
                ALS diagnosed November 2017, limb onset. For the 4 yrs previously I was losing my ballance.
                I'm staying positive and taking each day as it comes.

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                  #9
                  Hi Lynne,

                  Synthesised voice systems are never perfect but I wouldn’t worry too much about occasional mispronounciations. People listening to your voice through a tablet will understand. Regional accents are always difficult to reproduce and I say this as a Geordie.

                  Best wishes,
                  Barry
                  I’m going to do this even if it kills me!

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                    #10
                    Hi Lynne;

                    I would be tempted to get in contact with model talker and perhaps the Mnda specialist about this as they will both have experience of this happening.

                    Love Terry
                    TB once said that "The forum is still the best source for friendship and information."

                    It will only remain so if new people post and keep us updated on things that work or don't work and tips.

                    Please post on old threads that are of use so that others see them and feel free to start new subjects and threads.

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                      #11
                      Good morning

                      interesting session on technical stuff at the south-east region meeting on Sunday.

                      This lot gave a demonstration - https://thinksmartbox.com/product/grid-3/

                      And pointed me to this lot to voice record - CereVoice Me - errrr - https://www.cereproc.com - it is about £500 but they do it at cost and people on Sunday reported good results

                      Best

                      Andy
                      Last edited by nunhead_man; 10 April 2018, 09:26. Reason: update
                      Warmly


                      Andy

                      ​Diagnosed 03/2015. One sided limb onset (arm) sporadic ALS/MND. MND hitting - now 50% left arm and 90% right arm, plus other bits including left shoulder

                      "Things turn out the best for people who make the best of the way things turn out"

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                        #12
                        Hi Andy,

                        Thanks for posting this. I tried the demo and the voice is okay. My one negative comment is that when you type it doesn’t always recognise the common words stored in my iPad so you have to type the whole word. It’s great that the tech guys are continuing to develope aids to improve the quality of life.

                        Best wishes,
                        Barry
                        I’m going to do this even if it kills me!

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                          #13
                          Hello my wife has just started with this voice banking through the program provided through the N.H.S. Local team.
                          there was no mention of payment at all.
                          It took weeks for the team to get a mic in the end I got my own.
                          She was enjoying doing it until it crashed our laptop.
                          The program does not work with the updated version of Crome.
                          Not impressed so far let’s hope things improve so she can continue with the banking before it’s too late.
                          Thanks you
                          Royo

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Royo View Post
                            Hello my wife has just started with this voice banking through the program provided through the N.H.S. Local team.
                            there was no mention of payment at all.
                            It took weeks for the team to get a mic in the end I got my own.
                            She was enjoying doing it until it crashed our laptop.
                            The program does not work with the updated version of Crome.
                            Not impressed so far let’s hope things improve so she can continue with the banking before it’s too late.
                            Thanks you
                            Royo
                            I encourage you to also go the Model Talker route.
                            You bank online. It cant crash. They save your voice.
                            Then when ready you download it onto your ipad via the Predictable app. Predictable is the app that allows you to playback.

                            Charles

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                              #15
                              Hi Roy;

                              It's good to hear the speech therapist is involved and sorted out any cost.

                              What program has she provided?

                              You can phone Mnda connect and speak to them about the program and ask for advise as they have a person quite knowledgeably on the subject.

                              Modal talker is the one used by most, it was free but now costs around £90 I think.

                              Love Terry
                              TB once said that "The forum is still the best source for friendship and information."

                              It will only remain so if new people post and keep us updated on things that work or don't work and tips.

                              Please post on old threads that are of use so that others see them and feel free to start new subjects and threads.

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