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    Eyegaze

    Yesterday I had my first demonstration of Eyegaze using the Tobii eye tracker system.

    Amazing technology!

    Clearly it will take a lot of practice to become proficient, but I can see a future.

    Ellie - what dwell time do you use, please?

    hugs

    Doug
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    12 August 2021
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    12 August 2021

    #2
    Great that you had a chance to use eye gaze Doug - go you 🤩

    I use a dwell time of 700ms, that suits me and, remember I don't use Grid software. xx
    ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
    Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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      #3
      Doug Carpenter I'm just wondering Doug if you found the dwell time too fast or too slow in your demo?

      And did they say they would give you one soon enough? 😘😘
      ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
      Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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        #4
        Hi Ellie

        I got them to reduce the dwell time from 1.5 to 1 second and I feel even shorter would be possible with practice. but now I have to wait for a few weeks.

        I don't intend to use the Gridpad software either - just word and excel I hope.

        Do you know of any useful tutorial videos on, say, YouTube?

        hugs

        Doug xx

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          #5
          Originally posted by Doug Carpenter View Post
          I don't intend to use the Gridpad software either - just word and excel I hope.
          Did the tablet in the demo have Microsoft products such as Word and Excel, or if not, did you ask/tell for them to be included on the device you get?

          Eye trackers (the hardware) cannot control the device without mouse emulation software, which is Grid 3 in your case, so you'll have to use it - and this brings me back to whether or not those you'll have the products installed, if that makes sense? xx

          ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
          Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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            #6
            Doug, the videos I found are pretty basic, none go into computer control in any depth. I found this webinar presentation, not a tutorial, geared more towards providers than end users, but it shows more of the Grid's capabilities than any other video I watched.

            It's pretty dry, some of it will be irrelevant to you, and the presenter isn't using eye gaze (that doesn't make any difference to its functionality) but it gives a real feel of functionality.

            Apologies in advance for asking you to watch it 😏😘


            ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
            Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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              #7
              Sorry Ellie. I didn't understand that cursor control was part of Grid 3. I thought that referred to the big buttons like Web, messages , mail etc.

              The Eyegaze was demoed on my computer by plugging the illuminator/camera bar along the bottom edge of the screen. I have already loaded MS Word and EXCEL.

              THanks for searching out that useful video.

              sorry to be brief. Still using failing fingers on oversize keyboard.

              Hugs

              Doug xx

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                #8
                Originally posted by Doug Carpenter View Post
                The Eyegaze was demoed on my computer by plugging the illuminator/camera bar along the bottom edge of the screen.
                And they downloaded some mouse emulation software onto your PC, so you had onscreen controls for Left Click, Right Click, Scroll etc. ??
                ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
                Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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                  #9
                  That was through grid 3 I think.
                  x

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                    #10
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                    ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
                    Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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                      #11
                      hi both. i am struggling get help from my SLT. i am loosing my speech and can only use left hand so would love eyegaze. i have already messaged you ellie for great advise but doug did you get your device and programme etc through your SLT
                      Diagnosed May 2021 bulbar onset als.

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                        #12
                        Hi Shelly

                        Yes, ultimately it all started with my SLT. it's been a long process to get to Eyegaze.

                        My SLT put me in touch with her colleagues in the Electronic Assistive Technology Team of the Specialist Disability Service.
                        they provided me with a small touch screen computer using windows 10. This came with a stand that held it in my eye line reclining in my chair. (Interrupted by carers)

                        After various visits, I ended up with an oversize keyboard and a rollerball mouse as means of operating it with my fingers, as i'm doing now. My hands and fingers have deteriorated, hence the need to explore eyegaze. A few weeks ago they fitted a Torbiidynavox bar along the front edge of the screen and configured Eyegaze control.

                        fundamentally it's very impressive, but after an encouraging start I'm finding it hard to master it. Sometimes I cannot seem to pick the right key.

                        I will persevere!

                        The techie is due to visit in a couple of weeks.

                        Hope this helps.

                        Doug

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                          #13
                          Well you seem to have mastered the fundamentals. 👍😁🤗😀xx
                          Bulbar started Jan 2020. Mute and 100% tube fed but mobile and undefeated. Stay Strong 🤗😘🤗😁xx

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Doug Carpenter View Post
                            Sometimes I cannot seem to pick the right key.
                            May I drill down into that Doug - is it because the icon/letter is too small; the dwell time is too long or short; the zoom function is off; or maybe you can't pinpoint the why? xx

                            ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
                            Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

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                              #15
                              don't know yet. probably not dwell time or letter size. might be reflections from mask

                              xx

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