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    #16
    I'm with Barry and Gary. Perhaps we need another petition.
    when i can think of something profound i will update this.

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      #17
      I agree. Not sure if petition is answer in this case though. This disease make us contemplate desperate measures. At low points I confess my mind has considered more radical forms of protest

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        #18
        Presumably you would have seen a mental health worker when you were in hospital, given that you had attempted suicide, hopefully something positive will come out of it.

        Thanks to the person who found you too. xx
        ​Diagnosed 03/2007. Sporadic Definite ALS/MND Spinal (hand) Onset.
        Eye gaze user - No functional limbs - No speech - Feeding tube - Overnight NIV.

        ​

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          #19
          In my professional life, I used to be that mental health worker. Strange what life does - I now completely understand both sides of the argument.
          It’s good to know you’re still with us Matthew, but I really do β€œget it”.
          love from Lizzie x

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            #20
            These few posts highlight the dilemma successive governments have and will face on the subject of legalising suicide.

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              #21
              Hi Matthew, really hope you can get some support as you must have been so desperate.It’s so tough for you not being able to speak.Hope you have a communication aid to share your feelings with a mental health professional too.
              Best wishes
              Mary

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                #22
                Oh mental services offered visits and drugs. What real help is there? πŸ€”
                Bulbar started Jan 2020. Mute and 100% tube fed but mobile and undefeated. Stay Strong πŸ€—πŸ˜˜πŸ€—πŸ˜xx

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                • I am incapable of killing myself but an OT suggested a way using my bed control.

                  Matt had the opportunity but just didn't put enough drugs down. Simplez.

                  Why do we live at all??

                  Why do I want to see tomorrow??

                  Oh yeah, Manchester gonna win premiership, I love my carers, gonna make more progress on the app, gonna watch footie this summer, they might sort out a cure for MND, .................................................. ............................. life just bounces so don't you get worried at all

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                  What about us, Shipman?

                  Last edited by Graham; 2 May 2021, 00:24.

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                    #24
                    The only way is up baby πŸ˜…
                    Bulbar started Jan 2020. Mute and 100% tube fed but mobile and undefeated. Stay Strong πŸ€—πŸ˜˜πŸ€—πŸ˜xx

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                      #25
                      Hi Matthew, what help do you think would be beneficial to you?You say you have been offered support from mental health services and β€œdrugs”.
                      I know from your posts it’s not the first time you have mentioned ending your life.
                      Hope you get the appropriate support needed soon.
                      Best wishes
                      Mary

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                        #26
                        To be totally honest Mary I have faced things in my life when counseling and drugs were given and neither helped in the long run. I feel like I am in the end part now so I will wait to die naturally. That way I won't offend anyone will I? πŸ˜‰
                        Bulbar started Jan 2020. Mute and 100% tube fed but mobile and undefeated. Stay Strong πŸ€—πŸ˜˜πŸ€—πŸ˜xx

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                          #27
                          I don't think anyone was offended just worried sick that you would be alone.

                          if it was legal this wouldn't have to happen it could be done in a more civilised way.

                          I know it's a difficult subject, and there are arguments for and against, but we should be able to come to some kind of arrangement. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
                          when i can think of something profound i will update this.

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                            #28
                            It makes me so angry that I have been able to do it for dogs and cats. 😠
                            Bulbar started Jan 2020. Mute and 100% tube fed but mobile and undefeated. Stay Strong πŸ€—πŸ˜˜πŸ€—πŸ˜xx

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                              #29
                              I know Matthew I totally agree. I don't see why anyone has to get on a plane and go to Switzerland. They should be able to do it when and where they decide. It's not like it's a thing that's decided on a whim.

                              if I kept an animal and it was suffering I could be prosecuted and yet I am allowed to watch someone suffer and do what? It's madness.
                              when i can think of something profound i will update this.

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                                #30
                                Hi Matthew just seen this and nice to hear from you, I have been worrying about you a lot. Love and hugs xx
                                Diagnosed July 2020, ALS bulbar onset. PEG and ventilator (mainly at night), and pretty poor speech, but legs still about functioning!

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